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Old 12-08-2008, 12:24 PM
littleogre littleogre is offline
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no longer allowed to go over 70 percent ?

Ok a couple days ago My fap was at 39 percent upload and 40 some download. For some odd reason it had been stuck at the same numbers for a few days. then bam i get faped which is strange because i had not dled anything in a few days. So i call WB because i'm concerned as to why my fap spiked so much so quickly and i was told a couple interesting things. The lady said they only update the fap once a month now and that customers will be faped if they use over 70 percent. I hope she was confussed because that seems mighty unfair as it cheats customers out of 30 percent of their alloted bandwith and a fap meter that updates once a month is nearly useless. Anyway is it true that we are only allowed to use 70 percent?
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:33 PM
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I have been over 70% of the download threshold of the Value Pack for more than a month without being slowed down. The NRTC FAP meter is still returning values updated with a lag less than one hour. I am not sure about the Wildblue FAP meter located at the ikano server because I stopped using it after it began returning errors frequently. The others seem to be working okay including the one used at the Wildblue/Google portal.

As far as I know the customer service representative is incorrect on both issues.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:30 PM
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I run above 70% fairly often without trouble. I'm on the value plan, so my 70% line is 5250MB. Here is some of my recent history above 70%:



Code:
8/10/2008 21:34:31	671	5923
8/15/2008 21:19:08	619	5601
8/16/2008 21:34:27	618	5515
8/16/2008 21:37:58	618	5515
8/19/2008 19:53:59	660	5814
8/21/2008 21:53:32	955	6363
8/22/2008 21:24:06	981	6826
8/23/2008 21:26:22	998	7009

9/28/2008 21:04:44	353	5222
9/29/2008 21:00:14	356	5481
10/2/2008 21:46:07	349	5282
10/3/2008 21:00:54	337	5278

10/12/2008 17:04:12	278	5269
10/13/2008 17:06:41	284	5398
10/15/2008 17:00:30	283	5602
10/16/2008 17:00:28	283	5653
10/17/2008 17:00:44	284	5735
10/18/2008 17:00:11	286	5819
10/19/2008 17:00:51	313	6207
10/20/2008 17:00:12	305	6035
10/21/2008 17:49:58	301	5922
10/22/2008 17:00:35	298	5834
10/23/2008 17:00:41	290	5671
10/24/2008 17:02:02	288	5557
10/26/2008 17:54:48	289	5333

11/5/2008 17:00:34	278	5522
11/6/2008 17:00:02	288	5376
11/7/2008 17:00:18	300	5393
11/9/2008 17:00:25	316	5547
11/10/2008 17:00:14	313	5438

11/29/2008 17:00:00	307	5360
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:31 PM
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BTW, I no longer receive warnings from the NRTC when I approach my FAP threshhold.
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:04 PM
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... Anyway is it true that we are only allowed to use 70 percent?
Never been there, but it is my understanding that when you exceed 100% of your FAP, your speeds are reduced until you are under 70%. You get to use 100% of you FAP on the way up, but you lose 30% on the way back down.

WB claims this hysteresis effect is to prevent constant toggling of state when you are near 100%. I think they could have set the limit at 90% and achieved that effect. I believe the 70% number is purely punitive.
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Old 02-07-2009, 05:49 PM
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Never been there, but it is my understanding that when you exceed 100% of your FAP, your speeds are reduced until you are under 70%. You get to use 100% of you FAP on the way up, but you lose 30% on the way back down.

WB claims this hysteresis effect is to prevent constant toggling of state when you are near 100%. I think they could have set the limit at 90% and achieved that effect. I believe the 70% number is purely punitive.
I have "hovered" in the upper 90 percent range for days on end with no problems whatsover. At one time, there was a lot of discussion that WB did not "return" (or give back credit) on any predictable basis. I have watched it closely for the last few days and find that within any given period (even an hour or two) the usage logged by fapzilla will go BOTH up and down. It almost seems to be in "realtime" now. I'd say that (as usual) the WB CSR's don't have a clue.

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Old 02-10-2009, 10:54 PM
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It almost seems to be in "realtime" now.
The FAP meter is not always consistent. Sometimes mine updates every 15 minutes, other times hourly and still other times at 12 hour intervals. It has quirks. To really understand it you need to use Fapzilla and Task Scheduler to collect periodic readings of the FAP meter and other software to read your actual usage. After collecting sufficient data, copy it into a spreadsheet and plot graphs like I did in FAP Flap Follow-up (Feb. 28, 2007).
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Old 02-21-2009, 02:19 PM
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Fap

I've been on WB going on four years in Sept 2009. When my FAP Counter Stats quit working I just kept my normal surfing and downloading and never been Faped yet. Knock on wood!
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